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  Being weak in the truth or just less interested

  by JH in

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  2. friends

  often the witnesses will say that someone is weak in the truth, if they don't do as much as the others.

  i don't think that they use the right expression, because someone could just be less interested in these things, but not weak.

  no one likes to be labeled "weak", so i wonder if this is not another way the watchtower has to make someone feel guilty, so that we will do more, just to be accepted by the others in the congregation?

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  El blanko

  make someone feel guilty

  Precisely - not everybody can keep up with the reading / the meetings / the ministry in the the "expected" fashion no doubt!
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  Confess by partaking at the Memorial? !!!

  by etan 4 U in

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  2. friends

  please answer the question at the bottom..... 2 cor 13:5-6

  5 keep testing whether you are in the faith, keep proving what you yourselves are.

  do you not recognize that jesus christ is in union with you

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  Well I for one have always considered that the emblems are most likely meant for "all" Christians and not for those exclusively in a certain priviledged class.

  But to make a "public display" at a Kingdom Hall by going against their own tradition lacks respect and therefore works against what I understand to be a Christian.

  I would personally not go into any church and make a display to prove a point.

  If that is what you are inferring by the context of the above post?
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  The good in Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by ScoobySnax in

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  2. experiences

  i don't think i've made any apology for my leanings here towards jws, whilst i don't imagine most here will agree with me, i just think its good sometimes to redress the balance on this forum in a small way to let people who might be reading/lurking/ know that.. despite feeling messed up a bit in my own head about which direction i want/have to take in my own life, and despite many struggles as deep and traumatic as many have experienced here, i still hold jws as a group in the highest esteem.

  i can remember what it was like to try and do the "right" thing and follow the way of the truth, it was bloody hard, and i fell down many times.

  i always used to try and pick myself up dust myself down and start over again, sometimes with success for longer periods than others.

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  If the organization define through their collective activity within your own mind the ideals you need to attain in order to gain salvation, and you cannot see another pathway in this life, then for the sake of your own peace of mind, it is better to return.

  Try and retain your open mind when you do so, by accepting that the subjective truth of mankind turns out to be a lie time and time again.

  I know that many JWs are not merciless spiritual vampires and "do" hold fast fine qualities and attempt to stand clean before Christ & God. So in that sense you will not be in bad company.

  I do question upon study the absolute authority of the organization over the conscience, but that is well known here.

  Take care and I wish you well.

  (some old timers here do not believe in a God of clearly defined standards anymore, so you may as well be talking to a brick wall)
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  No sex or marriage for Great Crowd

  by cherjcd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello folks,.

  the watchtower has promised a special group of people that they will have sex, marriage and children in the new earth.

  no resurrected person will have these privileges because you have to live through armageddon to get the privilege to procreate.

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  A "Witness" friend of mine told me upon questioning over similar issues that God would ultimately fulfill the desire of every faithful man and woman who enter the new world society, so presumably that means that he will have a wife and children (his deep heartfelt desire - he is currently single). He is quite old and possibly may not see the end of the system (so he tells me) ... so does that mean his desire will now go unfulfilled?

  A deeply subjective area of debate amongst rank and file JWs and certainly not set in stone as some may think.

  Conjecture - so why even bother debating this area of thought ?
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  Has anyone ever experienced a miracle?

  by new light in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  does anyone have a true story that unquestionably proves god's existence?

  bible stories or amazing coincidences do not count as a viable response, sorry to say.

  i'm asking as a person who, although good-hearted and "moral", has lost all faith in an outside god of any kind.

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  I have had other situations, such as poulterguise-type demon activity (the kind of blatant stuff that cannot be ignored or written off as imagination....the kind of stuff out of movies) that ended when praying in Jesus name with other believers....and at least one situation where I had a premonition pop into my head that saved my life two seconds later...since my abilities for precognition are not developed, and the thought didn't come from myself, it was as if someone else's thought was spoken into my thoughts, I consider that was also devine intervention, but I don't think that is the "miracle" material you're looking for so I'll leave out the details.

  Yes, this is a key area to tap in to (knowledge wise) to help build up your faith in a world beyond the objective (material) reality that most accept without question.

  A group of friends I associate with who are basically Christians at heart (in terms of their overall belief system and faith in Christ) are interested in occult activity and pursue the knowledge to help bolster their faith. During the pursuit of this knowledge, they collectively opened up a matrix of bizarre synchronicities that have lead them into all sorts of curious areas. Including a famous occult murder within the UK, which spiralled off into background research into Charles T Russell (the JW connection) and resulted in a whole host of truly intriguing lines of investigation.

  My one dear friend, whose word I trust, had a very strange incident involving a camera he owns. The camera recorded a photograph by a canal side, detailing an image of my friend (who owns the camera) staring into the canal. Now, the odd thing is, the camera was in his pocket at the time and the angle of the shot appears to be from a person of considerable height (due to the angle). We have no explanation for this at all. This was the first event that expanded out to form our own kind of matrix of linked events.

  My other friends have had several curious manifestations in their own home, witnessed by several people at the same time. Again, I do not doubt their word and trust the testimony of all three individuals. Two were active JWs at the time of these particular events. The one chap has died sadly and the other is currently disfellowshiped.

  The one incident in particular involved a very odd piece of meshed material (black in colour I believe), which spiraled through the ceiling of the main living area and slowly descended to the floor and then vanished. Three people witnessed this event. They described the object as being very abstract and time appeared to slow as the material moved through the air. Upon investigation, just above the room where the object appeared there were several serious occult books by amongst other authors; Kenneth Grant and Aleister Crowley. The one book in particular is not very nice at all and is a serious sex magic discourse.

  Others events include distinct heavy breathing coming from one area of another friends house. An encounter with what can only be described as a UFO one evening (too much to go into here) .... again, dazzling in it's clarity and manifestation. The scale of which cannot be anything than other-worldly technology. A ball of light appeared in front of a friend within a local area of woodlands. Another ball of light passed through the window of another friends house and travelled through the house and then returned back into the garden area before vanishing.

  The list could go on ........

  To me, there is no doubt in my mind, there are other "intelligent" beings operating on another dimensional plane.

  The term miracle could be applied to all of these events that use matter and energy to produce the effect in a remarkable way.
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  Moscow Bans JW's

  by HoChiMin in

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  2. friends

  it must be satan?

  http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/r/russia_jehovahs_witnesses?site=apweb&section=home&template=default.

  mar 27, 12:26 pm est.

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  They can believe what they want as long as they don't try to influence other people with this shit.

  Hehe hehe hehe har har harrrr har ....

  Ok - let's take that statement further, make it broader if you like.

  So any organization or media outlet that "you" regard as peddling "shit" and which attempts to influence others "you" would ban?

  In that case, let us ban:

  Islam / The Catholic Church / The Sun News Paper (UK) - or most tabloid rags worldwide / The houses of parliament / The pop industry / Celebrity culture / The porn industry / Marketing execs attached to major commercial corporate bodies / hmmm.... indeed, major commercial corporate bodies ...

  Ahem - joking aside.

  Really not fair at all to ban the JWs movement in Moscow (unless they really do have the truth and it is part of God's plan of course).

  The Romans tried to stamp out Christianity in it's various flavours and look what happened back then. It expanded in all directions. You try and ban Christianity in whatever form it takes and it will overcome oppression and conquer.
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  The Passion of Aleister Crowley

  by Satanus in

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  2. friends

  hide your kids, cover your wives, and put away your passion for jesus, here come the debil.

  um, ok where wuz i?

  oh yah, they are making a movie about aliester crowley later this yr. here are some excerpts of the blurb.

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  Hideous character - it doesn't surprise me at all that this twisted world vomits a movie out.

  I wonder if they will include the scene where he tries to unleash a demon from the abyss whilst performing anal sex with one of his male cohorts in a desert?

  Or maybe a trip to France to that lovely picturesque chateauex where all sorts of loving acts were performed infront of children.

  Definitely a film for the kids eh?
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  Strange picture in this week's Watchtower on porneia?

  by eyeslice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  link to picture: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/file/7d83e711-da29-44aa-bde7-f74f9a3d79bd.ashx.

  the following caption appeared opposite the paragraph porneia (quote: "porneia includes such acts as oral sex, anal sex, and masterbating another person") what can happen if we ignore warnings?.

  now is it just me, but isn't the picture of the little boy trying to rescue his ball from out of a pond just a little weird?

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  Children are such wonderful, perfect little people.

  To be fair - I think the image is trying to point out that without proper guidance and care, one can fall into an area of danger.

  It is an unfortunate choice of image (possibly), considering the likelyhood of a child of that age involving itself without pressure in immoral sexual activity.

  Not sure about "perfect little people" - some are foul-natured little imps
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  Should You Believe in the Trinity?

  by Tower Man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i posted this about 1 year ago and people seemed to really enjoy it.

  it's a simulated discussion about the watchtower's main anti-trinity booklet named, should you believe in the trinity.

  the purpose of the article is not to validate or discredit the trinity, but solely to examine the watchtower's literary honesty or dishonesty.

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  God has ownership over all parts of this creation in my view. I also believe that we exist within God, yes, all matter - all energy.

  Jesus is the very utterance of Jehovah, his word. Jehovah has ownership over his word and the spirit is the means by which almighty God affects the physical creation.

  I believe that God is one and has ownership over everything that goes outwards towards creation. I do not personally see God as being divided within himself into 3 distinct units. Simply one unit, that extends outwards in whichever way he chooses.

  This is ultimately just another feeble debate that divides us from his love and each other.

  It is well known that the triangle has been used amongst pagans for many millennia. One could assume that this is to form the basis of counterfeit worship, or, one could assume that this sacred geometry is being twisted to insult the oneness of the almighty God.

  Whatever - have a good day - keep on loving each other.
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  It's easier not to judge

  by Dawn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was talking with my mother-in-law this evening and came upon an intriguing thought.

  it's less stressful now that i'm not expected to judge other people.

  i know we're all human and still do judge other people even subconsciously - but i mean, not being expected to pigeon-hole individuals into categories.

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  I think judgement is a necessary part of our lives, to help us determine right from wrong and that goes for judging those around us as well. We are enabled to determine our association via our judgement.

  Although having said all of that, your "average" witness judges the "world" far too harshly IMO and appears to overlook compassion towards others and instead takes a "holier-than-thou" attitude.

  One lesson of the scriptures for me, is that basically our works are generally lacking, regardless, across the board. One can polish the outer shell and stop commiting the obvious sins in this present world, like fornication, adultery, etc - BUT, inwardly we all make errors daily, regardless of our faith or involvement with whichever religion we choose. In that sense, we are all the same and to me there is no division between any of us in that respect.

  "Undeserved" kindness applies equally to one of Jehovah's Witnesses, as it does to any other man walking this earth.